What are the uses for double vamp+Double Zealous? - Guild Wars Forums

Lithril Ashwalker · May 01, 2011, 11:24 PM // 23:24

What is Double Vamp used for other than the rarity of the drop?

**Marty Silverblade** · May 01, 2011, 11:35 PM // 23:35

Double vamp is used for killing yourself. It's useful in the places where you want to die and be resurrected in a more opportune location.

Double zealous is rarer (from my experiences, anyway) and isn't really useful for anything. There are some situations where it might be useful but a normal zealous is sufficient for those.

Lithril Ashwalker · May 01, 2011, 11:37 PM // 23:37

but why use a double vamp to kill urself to rez in a better place, if u could just run into an enemy saccing urself?

Grumpy Bear · May 01, 2011, 11:54 PM // 23:54

Double vamp is used in GvG, where the opposing team will sometimes try to kill you after time and so won't attack you. If this happens you can use the double vamp to sac yourself.

**Marty Silverblade** · May 01, 2011, 11:54 PM // 23:54

There are situations where that might not be an option. For example, the bonus trick in Dunes of Despair. You need to kill something, transfer across, then have the rest of your team die so you can Rebirth/UA them across too. It's also useful if you get stuck. There are also uses for it in PvP, but I'm not particularly familiar with them.

Infectious · May 02, 2011, 12:49 AM // 00:49

Double vamp for HA/GvG to not get killed after time.

Not necessary, but a nice touch.
Double zealous has no useage what so ever.

*Darcy* · May 02, 2011, 01:35 AM // 01:35

If you want to go afk when getting a run, sometimes it is required that you kill yourself, so you bring a vamp weapon. Double vamp just does it faster.

Ok Dont Panic · May 02, 2011, 02:04 AM // 02:04

Killing yourself while you have cons up is one of the main uses for double vampiric weapons. If there is nothing to kill you and you need to be ressed through a gate for example a double vamp will over come the +1 hp regen of cons.

Ailina · May 02, 2011, 04:53 AM // 04:53

Also, a weapon with a -1hp regen does not need to have a vamp mod attached to it. It is +15% damage always, and if you use a skalefin soup or something, or even if you have cons up, then it's as close to +15% unconditional as you can get, imo (in pve).

Xslash · May 02, 2011, 05:05 AM // 05:05

double zealous can be useful when doing the following quests:

blood washes blood
a gate too far
curse of the nornbear

while under the ursan, raven, or wolf aura.
energy degen is capped at -2.

Divine Ashes · May 02, 2011, 06:23 AM // 06:23

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Originally Posted by Xslash

double zealous can be useful when doing the following quests:

blood washes blood
a gate too far
curse of the nornbear

while under the ursan, raven, or wolf aura.
energy degen is capped at -2.

Leave it to somebody to find a good use for double zealous. Gg lol.

As others have said, double vamp is useful in GvG to prevent yourself from being killed after the res timer. Of course, it's not always going to work, but in those situations where you're saved from dying after timer from dual vamp when you wouldn't have died under single vamp, it could very well save your guild a loss.

Also, people usually bring the -50 cesta with them when they use dual vamp.

Luminarus · May 02, 2011, 11:00 AM // 11:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Divine Ashes

Leave it to somebody to find a good use for double zealous. Gg lol.

As others have said, double vamp is useful in GvG to prevent yourself from being killed after the res timer. Of course, it's not always going to work, but in those situations where you're saved from dying after timer from dual vamp when you wouldn't have died under single vamp, it could very well save your guild a loss.

Also, people usually bring the -50 cesta with them when they use dual vamp.

Under ursan the 15% damage is irrelevant, because all your damage is coming from your skills. Therefore its no more useful then running a zealous mod on ur 15>50/15Stance weapons.

Ok Dont Panic · May 02, 2011, 02:31 PM // 14:31

the point really was the double zealous on the weapon with blessing up = double the energy and at no cost of having -3-4 degen as the cap is -2 anyway

Lithril Ashwalker · May 02, 2011, 06:45 PM // 18:45

i think i get it

Haodu · May 02, 2011, 07:03 PM // 19:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ok Dont Panic

the point really was the double zealous on the weapon with blessing up = double the energy and at no cost of having -3-4 degen as the cap is -2 anyway

It's not actually double zealous, it just gets the energy penalty and a damage boost

May 01, 2011, 11:24 PM // 23:24	#1
Lithril Ashwalker Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Alabama Profession: A/	What are the uses for double vamp+Double Zealous? What is Double Vamp used for other than the rarity of the drop?

May 01, 2011, 11:35 PM // 23:35	#2
Marty Silverblade Administrator Join Date: Jun 2006	Double vamp is used for killing yourself. It's useful in the places where you want to die and be resurrected in a more opportune location. Double zealous is rarer (from my experiences, anyway) and isn't really useful for anything. There are some situations where it might be useful but a normal zealous is sufficient for those. __________________

May 01, 2011, 11:54 PM // 23:54	#5
Marty Silverblade Administrator Join Date: Jun 2006	There are situations where that might not be an option. For example, the bonus trick in Dunes of Despair. You need to kill something, transfer across, then have the rest of your team die so you can Rebirth/UA them across too. It's also useful if you get stuck. There are also uses for it in PvP, but I'm not particularly familiar with them. __________________

May 01, 2011, 11:37 PM // 23:37	#3
Lithril Ashwalker Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Alabama Profession: A/	but why use a double vamp to kill urself to rez in a better place, if u could just run into an enemy saccing urself?

May 01, 2011, 11:54 PM // 23:54	#4
Grumpy Bear Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: England Guild: [FAPd] Profession: Mo/	Double vamp is used in GvG, where the opposing team will sometimes try to kill you after time and so won't attack you. If this happens you can use the double vamp to sac yourself.

May 02, 2011, 12:49 AM // 00:49	#6
Infectious Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Zealand FTW Guild: Ex Talionis [Law]	Double vamp for HA/GvG to not get killed after time. Not necessary, but a nice touch. Double zealous has no useage what so ever.

May 02, 2011, 01:35 AM // 01:35	#7
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	If you want to go afk when getting a run, sometimes it is required that you kill yourself, so you bring a vamp weapon. Double vamp just does it faster.

May 02, 2011, 02:04 AM // 02:04	#8
Ok Dont Panic Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: UK Guild: We Gat Dis [HRUU] Profession: Mo/	Killing yourself while you have cons up is one of the main uses for double vampiric weapons. If there is nothing to kill you and you need to be ressed through a gate for example a double vamp will over come the +1 hp regen of cons.

May 02, 2011, 04:53 AM // 04:53	#9
Ailina Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2010 Guild: Whats Prot Spirit [FoR] Profession: R/	Also, a weapon with a -1hp regen does not need to have a vamp mod attached to it. It is +15% damage always, and if you use a skalefin soup or something, or even if you have cons up, then it's as close to +15% unconditional as you can get, imo (in pve).

May 02, 2011, 05:05 AM // 05:05	#10
Xslash Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2008	double zealous can be useful when doing the following quests: blood washes blood a gate too far curse of the nornbear while under the ursan, raven, or wolf aura. energy degen is capped at -2.

May 02, 2011, 02:31 PM // 14:31	#13
Ok Dont Panic Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: UK Guild: We Gat Dis [HRUU] Profession: Mo/	the point really was the double zealous on the weapon with blessing up = double the energy and at no cost of having -3-4 degen as the cap is -2 anyway

May 02, 2011, 06:45 PM // 18:45	#14
Lithril Ashwalker Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Alabama Profession: A/	i think i get it